The End of the Industrial Age and The Homeless - Architects of a New Dawn2024-03-29T08:21:00Zhttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/forum/topics/the-end-of-the-industrial-age?groupUrl=heartsoffireproject&commentId=2227378%3AComment%3A100211&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noRon, i luv your input here to…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-25:2227378:Comment:1002112009-07-25T17:17:17.622Zmary rosehttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/maryrose
Ron, i luv your input here to this group. Yes, once we are freed from menial "labor" our minds can fly into other dimensions. And, i do feel that Bob Ballard is on the right track with art. He and I had an interesting conversation about this the other day in which i was reminded of Frankie Lee Slater's work in that she considers "living" an "art form." And, i really do believe we are moving in this direction as the Industrial Age ends and the Age of Knowledge begins. And, as need changes, our…
Ron, i luv your input here to this group. Yes, once we are freed from menial "labor" our minds can fly into other dimensions. And, i do feel that Bob Ballard is on the right track with art. He and I had an interesting conversation about this the other day in which i was reminded of Frankie Lee Slater's work in that she considers "living" an "art form." And, i really do believe we are moving in this direction as the Industrial Age ends and the Age of Knowledge begins. And, as need changes, our structures are definitely going to change.<br />
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The monetary system is of prime concern. And, IMHO, one of the foremost discerning people involved is Thomas H. Greco, Jr. author of the book "Money" (among others), and now his newly released: "The End of Money and the Future of Civilization" is set to make waves. Tom, unlike most economists, has a holodynamic view of money and takes a bottom up perspective that also involves social systems design, and he also demonstrates how these sub-systems are affected by the system itself.<br />
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Since, I, myself, have been homeless i have a better perspective than most on what is needed.<br />
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I have to run out now, but more on this later. "What you are choosing to ign…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-24:2227378:Comment:1000352009-07-24T19:01:01.705ZRon Tocknellhttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/RonTocknell
"What you are choosing to ignore is what the will happen to the "laborers" when they will no longer need to do menial labor such as grow food, carry water, & work in assembly lines.<br />
They will be free to do more creative things. Go to the moon, Mars, and beyond. They will learn and use the other dimensions that surround us that are currently ignored because we have not devised ways of seeing in other frequencies."<br />
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With current global political systems, those who are no longer needed to do…
"What you are choosing to ignore is what the will happen to the "laborers" when they will no longer need to do menial labor such as grow food, carry water, & work in assembly lines.<br />
They will be free to do more creative things. Go to the moon, Mars, and beyond. They will learn and use the other dimensions that surround us that are currently ignored because we have not devised ways of seeing in other frequencies."<br />
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With current global political systems, those who are no longer needed to do menial tasks would not be free. There are millions today who are no longer needed to do menial tasks and they are simply excluded from society. The ideal is a leadership that coordinates the infrastructure of a society that provides for the people within it. The reality is a society that is powered by the workforce to maintain the power of those at the top. Yes. The US and the UK have welfare systems. But this is because we both like to call ourselves "democracies" and the welfare systems in place are reluctantly tolerated by those in power because they have no choice. Democracy is openly rejoiced by those who <i>aspire</i> to power... and a stone-in-the-shoe to those who <i>have</i> it.<br />
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A lot needs to happen before the benefits of the modern age can be equally distributed and one of them has to be an end to the current monetary system. Wealth depends on poverty. If everyone were equally wealthy, the monetary system would be serving no purpose. Money exists solely so that some may have it while others do not. It then has leverage: the fear of poverty. This keeps the 'movers and shakers' under control while poverty itself keeps the poor under control.<br />
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Homeless people tend to be disenfranchised and disempowered. They are not warriors like indigenous people who live harmoniously with their environment. It is, perhaps indigenous people who have the most to offer in terms of leadership. Thanks for sharing this repor…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-20:2227378:Comment:984592009-07-20T18:18:04.940ZBob Ballardhttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/BobBallard182
Thanks for sharing this report Mary. Although like most main stream thinking, it ignores that most important ingredient in transforming the world - human consciousness, it at least brings to light the physical state of the world.<br />
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<cite>mary rose said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/forum/topics/the-end-of-the-industrial-age?groupUrl=heartsoffireproject&page=1&commentId=2227378%3AComment%3A97255&x=1#2227378Comment97255"><div>I felt that this article…</div>
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Thanks for sharing this report Mary. Although like most main stream thinking, it ignores that most important ingredient in transforming the world - human consciousness, it at least brings to light the physical state of the world.<br />
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<cite>mary rose said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/forum/topics/the-end-of-the-industrial-age?groupUrl=heartsoffireproject&page=1&commentId=2227378%3AComment%3A97255&x=1#2227378Comment97255"><div>I felt that this article should be added to our discussion. Personally, i do not see anything in the recommendations that make sense to me. Creating fresh water from salt water seems feasible, and is already being accomplished in numerous places so why do we need to go to saltwater agriculture: and then growing meat without raising animals, give me a break. We can obtain all of the protein we need without meat, so what are these people thinking of other than furthering their own addiction? Meat is not a necessity for life and we need to stop those who want to convince it is so they can make more money from it. I know some of us are already on the Veg Solution group, and it is my feeling that we need to get the information we are gathering there over into this group so that we have it all in one place.<br/> <br/>
<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/the-planets-future-c">http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/the-planets...</a><br/>
<br/>
climate-change-will-cause-civilisation-to-collapse-1742759.html<br/>
<br/>
The planet's future: Climate change 'will cause civilisation to collapse'<br/>
<br/>
Authoritative new study sets out a grim vision of shortages and violence – but amid all the gloom, there is some hope too<br/>
<br/>
By Jonathan Owen<br/>
<br/>
Sunday, 12 July 2009<br/>
<br/>
An effort on the scale of the Apollo mission that sent men to the Moon is needed if humanity is to have a fighting chance of surviving the ravages of climate change. The stakes are high, as, without sustainable growth, "billions of people will be condemned to poverty and much of civilisation will collapse".<br/>
<br/>
This is the stark warning from the biggest single report to look at the future of the planet – obtained by The Independent on Sunday ahead of its official publication next month. Backed by a diverse range of leading organisations such as Unesco, the World Bank, the US army and the Rockefeller Foundation, the 2009 State of the Future report runs to 6,700 pages and draws on contributions from 2,700 experts around the globe. Its findings are described by Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the UN, as providing "invaluable insights into the future for the United Nations, its member states, and civil society".<br/>
<br/>
The impact of the global recession is a key theme, with researchers warning that global clean energy, food availability, poverty and the growth of democracy around the world are at "risk of getting worse due to the recession". The report adds: "Too many greedy and deceitful decisions led to a world recession and demonstrated the international interdependence of economics and ethics."<br/>
<br/>
Although the future has been looking better for most of the world over the past 20 years, the global recession has lowered the State of the Future Index for the next 10 years. Half the world could face violence and unrest due to severe unemployment combined with scarce water, food and energy supplies and the cumulative effects of climate change.<br/>
<br/>
And the authors of the report, produced by the Millennium Project – a think-tank formerly part of the World Federation of the United Nations Associations – set out a number of emerging environmental security issues. "The scope and scale of the future effects of climate change – ranging from changes in weather patterns to loss of livelihoods and disappearing states – has unprecedented implications for political and social stability."<br/>
<br/>
But the authors suggest the threats could also provide the potential for a positive future for all. "The good news is that the global financial crisis and climate change planning may be helping humanity to move from its often selfish, self-centred adolescence to a more globally responsible adulthood... Many perceive the current economic disaster as an opportunity to invest in the next generation of greener technologies, to rethink economic and development assumptions, and to put the world on course for a better future."<br/>
<br/>
Scientific and technological progress continues to accelerate. IBM promises a computer at 20,000 trillion calculations per second by 2011, which is estimated to be the speed of the human brain. And nanomedicine may one day rebuild damaged cells atom by atom, using nanobots the size of blood cells.<br/>
But technological progress carries its own risks. "Globalisation and advanced technology allow fewer people to do more damage and in less time, so that possibly one day a single individual may be able to make and deploy a weapon of mass destruction."<br/>
<br/>
The report also praises the web, which it singles out as "the most powerful force for globalisation, democratisation, economic growth, and education in history". Technological advances are cited as "giving birth to an interdependent humanity that can create and implement global strategies to improve the prospects for humanity".<br/>
<br/>
The immediate problems are rising food and energy prices, shortages of water and increasing migrations "due to political, environmental and economic conditions", which could plunge half the world into social instability and violence. And organised crime is flourishing, with a global income estimated at $3 trillion – twice the military budgets of all countries in the world combined.<br/>
<br/>
The effects of climate change are worsening – by 2025 there could be three billion people without adequate water as the population rises still further. And massive urbanisation, increased encroachment on animal territory, and concentrated livestock production could trigger new pandemics.<br/>
<br/>
Although government and business leaders are responding more seriously to the global environmental situation, it continues to get worse, according to the report. It calls on governments to work to 10-year plans to tackle growing threats to human survival, targeting particularly the US and China, which need to apply the sort of effort and resources that put men on the Moon.<br/>
<br/>
"This is not only important for the environment; it is also a strategy to increase the likelihood of international peace. Without some agreement, it will be difficult to get the kind of global coherence needed to address climate change seriously."<br/>
<br/>
While the world has the resources to address its challenges, coherence and direction have been lacking. Recent meetings of the US and China, as well as of Nato and Russia, and the birth of the G20 plus the continued work of the G8 promise to improve global strategic collaboration, but "it remains to be seen if this spirit of co-operation can continue and if decisions will be made on the scale necessary to really address the global challenges discussed in this report".<br/>
<br/>
Although the scale of the effects of climate change are unprecedented, the causes are generally known, and the consequences can largely be forecast.<br/>
The report says, "coordination for effective and adequate action is yet incipient, and environmental problems worsen faster than response or preventive policies are being adopted".<br/>
<br/>
Jerome Glenn, director of the Millennium Project and one of the report's authors, said: "There are answers to our global challenges, but decisions are still not being made on the scale necessary to address them. Three great transitions would help both the world economy and its natural environment – to shift as much as possible from freshwater agriculture to saltwater agriculture; produce healthier meat without the need to grow animals; and replace gasoline cars with electric cars."</div>
</blockquote> I felt that this article shou…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:972552009-07-16T23:10:54.368Zmary rosehttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/maryrose
I felt that this article should be added to our discussion. Personally, i do not see anything in the recommendations that make sense to me. Creating fresh water from salt water seems feasible, and is already being accomplished in numerous places so why do we need to go to saltwater agriculture: and then growing meat without raising animals, give me a break. We can obtain all of the protein we need without meat, so what are these people thinking of other than furthering their own addiction? Meat…
I felt that this article should be added to our discussion. Personally, i do not see anything in the recommendations that make sense to me. Creating fresh water from salt water seems feasible, and is already being accomplished in numerous places so why do we need to go to saltwater agriculture: and then growing meat without raising animals, give me a break. We can obtain all of the protein we need without meat, so what are these people thinking of other than furthering their own addiction? Meat is not a necessity for life and we need to stop those who want to convince it is so they can make more money from it. I know some of us are already on the Veg Solution group, and it is my feeling that we need to get the information we are gathering there over into this group so that we have it all in one place.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/the-planets-future-c">http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/the-planets-future-c</a><br />
<br />
climate-change-will-cause-civilisation-to-collapse-1742759.html<br />
<br />
The planet's future: Climate change 'will cause civilisation to collapse'<br />
<br />
Authoritative new study sets out a grim vision of shortages and violence – but amid all the gloom, there is some hope too<br />
<br />
By Jonathan Owen<br />
<br />
Sunday, 12 July 2009<br />
<br />
An effort on the scale of the Apollo mission that sent men to the Moon is needed if humanity is to have a fighting chance of surviving the ravages of climate change. The stakes are high, as, without sustainable growth, "billions of people will be condemned to poverty and much of civilisation will collapse".<br />
<br />
This is the stark warning from the biggest single report to look at the future of the planet – obtained by The Independent on Sunday ahead of its official publication next month. Backed by a diverse range of leading organisations such as Unesco, the World Bank, the US army and the Rockefeller Foundation, the 2009 State of the Future report runs to 6,700 pages and draws on contributions from 2,700 experts around the globe. Its findings are described by Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the UN, as providing "invaluable insights into the future for the United Nations, its member states, and civil society".<br />
<br />
The impact of the global recession is a key theme, with researchers warning that global clean energy, food availability, poverty and the growth of democracy around the world are at "risk of getting worse due to the recession". The report adds: "Too many greedy and deceitful decisions led to a world recession and demonstrated the international interdependence of economics and ethics."<br />
<br />
Although the future has been looking better for most of the world over the past 20 years, the global recession has lowered the State of the Future Index for the next 10 years. Half the world could face violence and unrest due to severe unemployment combined with scarce water, food and energy supplies and the cumulative effects of climate change.<br />
<br />
And the authors of the report, produced by the Millennium Project – a think-tank formerly part of the World Federation of the United Nations Associations – set out a number of emerging environmental security issues. "The scope and scale of the future effects of climate change – ranging from changes in weather patterns to loss of livelihoods and disappearing states – has unprecedented implications for political and social stability."<br />
<br />
But the authors suggest the threats could also provide the potential for a positive future for all. "The good news is that the global financial crisis and climate change planning may be helping humanity to move from its often selfish, self-centred adolescence to a more globally responsible adulthood... Many perceive the current economic disaster as an opportunity to invest in the next generation of greener technologies, to rethink economic and development assumptions, and to put the world on course for a better future."<br />
<br />
Scientific and technological progress continues to accelerate. IBM promises a computer at 20,000 trillion calculations per second by 2011, which is estimated to be the speed of the human brain. And nanomedicine may one day rebuild damaged cells atom by atom, using nanobots the size of blood cells.<br />
But technological progress carries its own risks. "Globalisation and advanced technology allow fewer people to do more damage and in less time, so that possibly one day a single individual may be able to make and deploy a weapon of mass destruction."<br />
<br />
The report also praises the web, which it singles out as "the most powerful force for globalisation, democratisation, economic growth, and education in history". Technological advances are cited as "giving birth to an interdependent humanity that can create and implement global strategies to improve the prospects for humanity".<br />
<br />
The immediate problems are rising food and energy prices, shortages of water and increasing migrations "due to political, environmental and economic conditions", which could plunge half the world into social instability and violence. And organised crime is flourishing, with a global income estimated at $3 trillion – twice the military budgets of all countries in the world combined.<br />
<br />
The effects of climate change are worsening – by 2025 there could be three billion people without adequate water as the population rises still further. And massive urbanisation, increased encroachment on animal territory, and concentrated livestock production could trigger new pandemics.<br />
<br />
Although government and business leaders are responding more seriously to the global environmental situation, it continues to get worse, according to the report. It calls on governments to work to 10-year plans to tackle growing threats to human survival, targeting particularly the US and China, which need to apply the sort of effort and resources that put men on the Moon.<br />
<br />
"This is not only important for the environment; it is also a strategy to increase the likelihood of international peace. Without some agreement, it will be difficult to get the kind of global coherence needed to address climate change seriously."<br />
<br />
While the world has the resources to address its challenges, coherence and direction have been lacking. Recent meetings of the US and China, as well as of Nato and Russia, and the birth of the G20 plus the continued work of the G8 promise to improve global strategic collaboration, but "it remains to be seen if this spirit of co-operation can continue and if decisions will be made on the scale necessary to really address the global challenges discussed in this report".<br />
<br />
Although the scale of the effects of climate change are unprecedented, the causes are generally known, and the consequences can largely be forecast.<br />
The report says, "coordination for effective and adequate action is yet incipient, and environmental problems worsen faster than response or preventive policies are being adopted".<br />
<br />
Jerome Glenn, director of the Millennium Project and one of the report's authors, said: "There are answers to our global challenges, but decisions are still not being made on the scale necessary to address them. Three great transitions would help both the world economy and its natural environment – to shift as much as possible from freshwater agriculture to saltwater agriculture; produce healthier meat without the need to grow animals; and replace gasoline cars with electric cars." This really is a great analog…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:971672009-07-16T19:02:08.720Zmary rosehttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/maryrose
This really is a great analogy with the maze representing our present social system design.<br />
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<cite>Jeanne said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/forum/topics/the-end-of-the-industrial-age?groupUrl=heartsoffireproject&page=1&commentId=2227378%3AComment%3A97101&x=1#2227378Comment97101"><div><i>Bob said: "It is like asking a rat in a maze why it is lost. The rat will come up with reasons, but it is apparent from watching the rat that the design of the maze…</i></div>
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This really is a great analogy with the maze representing our present social system design.<br />
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<cite>Jeanne said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/forum/topics/the-end-of-the-industrial-age?groupUrl=heartsoffireproject&page=1&commentId=2227378%3AComment%3A97101&x=1#2227378Comment97101"><div><i>Bob said: "It is like asking a rat in a maze why it is lost. The rat will come up with reasons, but it is apparent from watching the rat that the design of the maze determines where the rat can go. The rat has choice but only within the narrow limits proscribed by the maze. When we are in the maze, we are like rats. We are unaware of the maze and make up reasons for our behavior and that of others."</i><br/> <br/>
Great analogy! ...and so true.</div>
</blockquote> Bob said: "It is like asking…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:971012009-07-16T17:05:47.030ZJeannehttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/Jeanne
<i>Bob said: "It is like asking a rat in a maze why it is lost. The rat will come up with reasons, but it is apparent from watching the rat that the design of the maze determines where the rat can go. The rat has choice but only within the narrow limits proscribed by the maze. When we are in the maze, we are like rats. We are unaware of the maze and make up reasons for our behavior and that of others."</i><br />
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Great analogy! ...and so true.
<i>Bob said: "It is like asking a rat in a maze why it is lost. The rat will come up with reasons, but it is apparent from watching the rat that the design of the maze determines where the rat can go. The rat has choice but only within the narrow limits proscribed by the maze. When we are in the maze, we are like rats. We are unaware of the maze and make up reasons for our behavior and that of others."</i><br />
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Great analogy! ...and so true. Both Bob and Daniel put a lot…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:970172009-07-16T12:40:38.497Zmary rosehttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/maryrose
Both Bob and Daniel put a lot into their comments related to human consciousness, and if one thinks about it on a deeper level, this is where everything begins isn't it? I am currently doing research for a book i am writing called: "The Sacred Quest for the Who of I Am". The book explores the biology of human consciousness and how it manifests. And, in so doing i am following closely the research of award-winning cellular biologist Bruce H. Lipton, M.D. along with others who are exploring the…
Both Bob and Daniel put a lot into their comments related to human consciousness, and if one thinks about it on a deeper level, this is where everything begins isn't it? I am currently doing research for a book i am writing called: "The Sacred Quest for the Who of I Am". The book explores the biology of human consciousness and how it manifests. And, in so doing i am following closely the research of award-winning cellular biologist Bruce H. Lipton, M.D. along with others who are exploring the biology of human consciousness which is a new and rapidly emerging field of discovery as we move from a "faith-based" consciousness at this time into what is referred to as "secular spirituality" which is based in science.<br />
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Dr. Lipton's work is based in a new field of science entitled: "epigenetics". And what epigentics is revealing is that the controlling factor in who we are is not our "genes" as has been previously thought, but is actually our environment -- or, more accurately our perception of our environment. And, since our social systems make up a large portion of our environment today, then it is imperative that we take a look at how we are affected by them. And, within the context of social systems, we need to look closely at the monetary system since it is the "driver" of all of our social systems.<br />
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Someone whose work I have found to be extremely interesting in the context of the whole on this subject is Dr. Jay Earley, author of: "Transforming Human Culture - Social Evolution and the Planetary Crisis." And I would like to go more into Jay's perspective on what is happening at this time, as he looks at our social systems with regard to bringing them back into balance, but a little later as there is so much we need to consider from different levels of consciousness.<br />
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Personally, i would like to keep this discussion as much as possible on an experiential basis coupled with scientific data so that we get out of the accusatory state and into one that is based in authenticity. Let's explore here the "whys" of why we act as we do and see if we can find resolution for some of the challenges we face today as the human family from this perspective.<br />
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However, this is a group discussion and all i can do is make suggestions - - - I was just talking with a fri…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:969622009-07-16T06:13:10.334ZDaniel LaLibertehttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/DanielLaLiberte
I was just talking with a friend today, looking back many thousands of years, before the industrial age, and before the agricultural age, back to the hunter-gatherer stage of our cultural evolution, and also looking forward to what this new information age (or knowledge age, or virtual telecommunication age, or maybe just the computer age), and what we might expect hundreds or thousands of years into the future.<br />
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The focus of our discussion was on our habits, both cultural and innate…
I was just talking with a friend today, looking back many thousands of years, before the industrial age, and before the agricultural age, back to the hunter-gatherer stage of our cultural evolution, and also looking forward to what this new information age (or knowledge age, or virtual telecommunication age, or maybe just the computer age), and what we might expect hundreds or thousands of years into the future.<br />
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The focus of our discussion was on our habits, both cultural and innate inclinations, and how they might be in conflict with what we need to do to survive and prosper in the world today. One example is that we still have a strong inclination for most us to be followers of a few leaders in a small tribal organization, which is perhaps advantageous for the hunter-gather stage, but it has created problems in later stages and we are still adapting to that. We end up with huge centralized governments ruled by a few powerful elite trying to run the world, but doing very badly.<br />
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We were probably fine up through the agricultural age, where we tended to build small villages surrounded by farmland and herding fields, and we stabilized at a level that we could sustain probably indefinitely. But then the industrial age came along, starting with the earliest metal ages, throwing us into centuries of instability that we still have not figured out how to deal with effectively. The basic thing going on is that energy and mineral resources are extracted from the earth, increasing the power of a few people at the expense of the rest, with insufficient social-political controls over doing so equitably, and a complete lack of consequences for dumping the waste products wherever we could get away with it.<br />
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So even while we have not figured out how to deal with this imbalance of power over resources, we have started in on the new age of information, which makes me wonder if we are in for problems an order of magnitude worse than we have seen already. The basic thing going on now is that resources are becoming less and less important while information, knowledge, and computational power gains in importance. One clear example of a huge problem caused by imbalances in this new age is the huge financial mess we are now in. Money, an abstract representation of work, or resources, but completely immaterial, just pure information, is controlled mostly by a very few powerful elite, who, it would seem, barely know what they are doing. And the gap between these few ultra-wealthy people and the vast majority of ultra-poor is something like 9 orders of magnitude (e.g. $100 per year compared to $100 billion per year).<br />
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So the main problem seems to stem from this disparity of control over our lives and resources, magnified by ever more powerful means of maintaining that control. So not only are we out of control and out of touch with the true costs of our living on earth, we have also grown to the point where we will soon outstrip our ability to sustain ourselves. Not only does it hurt a lot now for most the majority of the planet, but it is going to hurt a lot more for the rest of us very soon, unless we get this under control.<br />
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But the problem can not be considered to be population unless either we are planning to not solve it, heading rapidly toward major catastrophe, or we reduce the population severely, which would itself be a major catastrophe. On the other hand, population would actually be an asset if we can just take control of our lives and figure out how to be energy neutral or net-positive again. Use the remaining fossil fuels (and nuclear stockpile, why not) to create renewable solar and wind energy production, creating more than we need, so we can then use the excess energy to clean up the mess before it is too late. That's my plan anyway. A really great discussion, th…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:969502009-07-16T05:32:57.271ZBob Ballardhttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/BobBallard182
A really great discussion, thank you all for your contribution. Mary Rose and Jeanne seem aligned and Deborah, I think you end up there too.<br />
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One of the important capabilities that I think human beings now have is the ability to live and express ourselves from consciousness rather than just surviving. There is nothing wrong with surviving, but without consciousness life is not really lived, it is simply existed.<br />
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We "architects" of the new world are engaged in a labor that is unlike any other…
A really great discussion, thank you all for your contribution. Mary Rose and Jeanne seem aligned and Deborah, I think you end up there too.<br />
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One of the important capabilities that I think human beings now have is the ability to live and express ourselves from consciousness rather than just surviving. There is nothing wrong with surviving, but without consciousness life is not really lived, it is simply existed.<br />
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We "architects" of the new world are engaged in a labor that is unlike any other work that we have done before, a shared endeavor among people. Human consciousness is based on and emanates from all of us because we are one, we are all part of the human family and the earth. Connection between people is a key element of the expression of human consciousness.<br />
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Regardless of the circumstances of our life or the damage that has been done to people by the consumer culture we live in, we are responsible for our lives. However, we are not responsible for the circumstances, we are responsible for who we are being <b>about our circumstances</b>. Success and failure in our consumer culture is based on the presence or absence of possessions and power. We seek a world where there is no success or failure; our value is that we are eternal beings expressing universal consciousness in this world.<br />
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It is important for us to heal and to stop competing with each other and blaming each other. We can change no one but ourselves. Determining the "reasons" why people are homeless is a useless exercise. It is like asking a rat in a maze why it is lost. The rat will come up with reasons, but it is apparent from watching the rat that the design of the maze determines where the rat can go. The rat has choice but only within the narrow limits proscribed by the maze. When we are in the maze, we are like rats. We are unaware of the maze and make up reasons for our behavior and that of others.<br />
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Freedom from the maze is now available for us all. We only need the courage and the consciousness to receive it. Well I suppose that depends o…tag:architectsofanewdawn.ning.com,2009-07-16:2227378:Comment:968492009-07-16T01:45:58.096ZDeborah J. Boydhttps://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/profile/DeborahJBoyd
Well I suppose that depends on what you think of as living. Rather than depend on "homeless" people I would prefer to rely on people who are self-made success stories that built something from nothing. You have a romantic picture of the homeless. Let me give you another picture of some of these homeless people. Many are on drugs, including alcohol. Many made very good money at one point but spent it as fast as they made it so that they had no savings when they lost their job. Some people who…
Well I suppose that depends on what you think of as living. Rather than depend on "homeless" people I would prefer to rely on people who are self-made success stories that built something from nothing. You have a romantic picture of the homeless. Let me give you another picture of some of these homeless people. Many are on drugs, including alcohol. Many made very good money at one point but spent it as fast as they made it so that they had no savings when they lost their job. Some people who are homeless bought houses that were beyond what they could afford and then refinanced them to use the money for things that had nothing to do with the security of their future. Why on Earth you would think that because technology enables increased productivity that what was produced would be distributed to people who needed it is another romantic notion. You can look at the World now and see the inequities produced from greed. What you are choosing to ignore is what the will happen to the "laborers" when they will no longer need to do menial labor such as grow food, carry water, & work in assembly lines.<br />
They will be free to do more creative things. Go to the moon, Mars, and beyond. They will learn and use the other dimensions that surround us that are currently ignored because we have not devised ways of seeing in other frequencies.