We’d like to show the side of the world you don’t normally see on television.
You could have knocked me over with a feather... when you called bioregional animism, "strange ass hippy stuff." Almost all cultures have had a 'place'. ...you've heard the term displaced people... it's more than a socioeconomic term. It has to do with belonging to a people, a place, a community. Similarly, we know that when we clear cut a forest we are not just chopping down trees, we are destroying an ecosystem. Humans are or were a part of an ecosystem, as surely as the worms, the butterflies, the fish, the fox and all other species.
"I take it you didn't like that site. To each their own. Actually bioregional animism has nothing to do with liberalism or conservatism. Lots of bioregional animists up in this area are gun-toting, meat-eating survivalists, not liberal hippies, or strange ass hippy stuff" as you put it. I myself was brought up with guns and hunting, eating meat I kill. Too bad you don't think you walk with nature, because you can't get away from it. You are part of nature, so it's good to accept it.
I think left wing and right wing, when taken to their extremes, are both as intolerant as they accuse the other of being. However, in their classic definitions (not the ridiculous ideological extremist forms each has taken since the time of Nixon to the present) conservatism and liberalism each have valuable parts of the story and are not necessarily antagonistic."
I stand corrected. Touche'. I am an urbanite, but I can walk in nature, and feel at home. I just don't feel the need to be a part of a group to do it. Does that make sense? I also believe in agriculture, as long as it's done humanely. I will go back to that web page. I just didn't give it a good look. I apologize. That was hard to swallow, GULP... I would be at home kind of like "I Am Legend," if that makes any sense. Give me a group of buildings to live and scavenge through, a couple of fire arms, knives, to use for hunting. And the tribe could be enough to keep the gene pool viable. But I would want to explore more than just the Earth. I believe that is another of my problems. I have been disheartened by seeing the "evolved sense of reasoning" on tv, and I want to see it here. I have no problem with different cultures doing what they do, and I think that each culture has to leave itself be. Someone is Jewish, I am not. Why is that a problem? Someone else is Muslim, I am not. I don't care. If I can live next to you, and we can be neighbors, then let's do that. I am rambling now.
But I do apologize for my misdirected hostility torwards you Lance Michael Foster. I am just tired of the hippy ideal of "Everything is peace and understanding." What if someone invades your house, then what would you do? Stand there and let them take your belongings, and hurt your family? Am I making any sense here?
Yes I am a suburbian man. I love having my apartment, my life with all of my nice furniture that I worked my ass off to purchase. My guitars, etc... I see nothing wrong with the survival ticket system. It has been making people more greedy than usual, lately, but it works. One butt hole always tries to ruin it for the whole bunch though.
ACIM has an answer for this. But, it is obscure to the point of being difficult. The Course says there is a real world, but we don't see it. We see a world of pain, but this world is our distortion of the real world. Jesus says something that can be taken in a somewhat similar manner. He says to first seek the kingdom of heaven within, and furthermore he says this kingdom is imminent spatially. It is in front of us. Hindus have the concept of Maya, which says what we see is an illusion. There might be something to this, but it is difficult to live fully.
On a practical level, which is the level I deal with this...I have an alternative health practice...most suffering isn't substantial. Most suffering is some slight discomfort during a necessary change accompanied with a huge overreaction to it. The pain is in the resistance to the suffering, not the event itself. Helping a person to understand this takes them past the suffering. I have seen a couple of thousand people in my practice and I have heard pretty much every painful story one can hear in North America. I'm sure there are other types one can hear if you lived in Darfur. But, what I have never heard is anyone saying, once the situation is fully resolved, that they have actually been diminished. With the exception of having lost a child.
I believe, for what this is worth, Life/God/the Universe, whatever you want to call it, never takes anything from us that is truly beneficial. All we ever lose is a burden that was holding us back in some way. What is difficult is we have a view of ourselves that is largely incorrect, and often the changes don't fit with our view of how our lives should be. The actual change is a relief, but this is often not felt until later. Sometimes, much later. Life/God, etc. though isn't interested in making us good middle-class married taxpayers. Our purpose is to learn to Love, and to learn who we truly are, and then to contribute our unique self in a way that is most helpful to ourselves and others. Sometimes moving to that point that means you get dumped by your boyfriend, or you lose your job, or your house even. And, this engenders lots of pain. But, the pain isn't necessary, and will soon be seen to be unnecessary.
There are a couple of ways to go.
If you need a system compatible with our psychology, the Greek philosophers had some guidelines. A good introduction is "The Ten Golden Rules" by Soupios and Mourdoukoutas. In brief:
1. Examine Life
2. Worry only about the things you can control
3. Treasure friendship
4. Experience true pleasure
5. Master yourself
6. Avoid excess
7. Be a responsible human being
8. Don't be a prosperous fool
9. Don't do evil to other people
10. Kindness toward others tends to be rewarded
That's one way to go, based solely on ethics, without religion.
The other way to go is the Golden Rule, "Treat others the way you want to be treated," with its corollary, "Treat others the way they want to be treated."
Anthropology calls this the principle of reciprocity. Indigenous people see that as applying not only to other human beings, but nature (animals, plants, etc.) as well.