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Comment by Andrew McDowell on November 6, 2013 at 3:07am

Okay Vicente, Peace and , love :)

Comment by Vicente N. Carranza on November 5, 2013 at 2:03pm

Mr. Abbiati Religions is a paradox.  God gift to us.  Religion is a bad instrument use to get people in slave to one believe system.  A system use to keep it self growing richer.   Joel Olsteen is the number one example as an individual and the Catholic religion as a very large business. If and only if  when religions works it takes you on a necessary journey of learning until you get to the point that you realize that as you grown in faith the spirit will take you to a  realization  that religions are the biggest obstacles to God and the biggest enemy a Christian is another Christian. If that happens religion was worth it.  If not then you are still a slave to a very limited believe system. But still a slave that depends on God. People who make money from any self help methods will not understand. 

P.S. Please Mr. McDowell I do not want to hear any preaching.

Comment by Lorenzo Abbiati on November 5, 2013 at 12:19pm

religions are an attempt to explain to mankind God and the mistery of  infinity.

Can't change religion like changing a clothe/dress.

we can talk about religions but with respect to one another...Carlos is u busy man i hope he will be able to play as in 1973 grat concerts with Mc Laughlin.

actually have in my page santana73: an exract from a very rare concert...

whether he decides he can become a pastor it's up to him....

we can influence Carlos with our messages in the same measure he can influence us with his messages.....but all of us is free to do what he wants

Comment by Vicente N. Carranza on November 5, 2013 at 11:47am

  We are suppose to be Architects of a New Dawn.  How do we get the 475 members to believe that and start posting with that in mind.  Instead of talking about how great Mr. Santana is and how wonderful his music is. Mr. Santana is given us a great opportunity for all of us to be builders of  a new dawn (society). The only persons who contribute are the Trolls. So how do we get the members we have to get started. Maybe am asking or hoping for to much.

Comment by Rob Hale on November 5, 2013 at 9:28am

Comment by Rob Hale on November 5, 2013 at 9:24am

Vincente,

How can I help you?  I would love to share my ideas and by my sharing help you and others.  That's why I am here.   Not just here at AOAND, but here on Mother Earth.  Please, be more specific in how I can help you, and I'm here for you!  Let's get it together and make a new world!

Peace, and Unconditional love to you all.

Rob

PS: I highly recommend you check out Bashar via Darrell Anka.  The website is www.bashar.org

Comment by Vicente N. Carranza on November 4, 2013 at 2:14am

Mr. Hale.  Mr Santana stop Mr. McDowell by blocking him, I was hoping to explain why instead of blocking him but it did not work. The only thing I am doing is what you said, I am only feeding the Trolls. Mr. Hale I need your help.  The name of this website is Architects of a New Dawn.  What Mr Santana wants from us is to build a New and Real Society for a New Tomorrow.  I became a member of this group which was created by Mr. mike Balitao when we had less then 45 members.  I use to check out this group once a month to see if any thing good was happening to create that new society.  NOTHING!!!! All they want to talk about is how great Mr. Santana is and how wonderful his music is.  That it.  When I get board I start a discussion with a Troll that sometimes get real long.  But you know what this so call discussions is about the only thing that happening with this group.  Am always the bad guy but am the only one putting his head out with his believes system. Unless something good start what I am doing is, I guess, better then nothing.  At least I get people blood boiling a little bit.  What can we do to change this.

Mr McDowell you win.  You will always get the last word.  I try ed to help explain where we are at and where you are at.  I did not work.  If you believe in God please don't mention me any more.  I get lots of bad feelings.    Blessing to you and yours.   Tlamatini-vincente

Comment by Andrew McDowell on November 3, 2013 at 10:33pm

One last thing and I will stop, I'm going to say this, I am not against anyone here.Everyone got the right to chose his own destiny, a once great man said that, I'm sure you know, Mr. Bob Marley.I respect your beliefs that you chose to believe them.We are all human and share the ties of that humanity together, on this earth and are creations from the mind of God all unique and fearfully and wonderfully made. Can we agree on that? I am called to live in peace with all, if it is possible.Not always possible though, for we often carry anger and hostility if we feel we are being infringed on.I am trying my brothers and am learning how to be tollarant of all people and be resectful, Talking about these issues, to Mr.Vicente and Rob I have learned from this exsperiance, the value and how precious we all are in the infinite love of the creator of the multi-verse.Thank you again! If anyone has questions and or are seeking I will answer to the best of my ability.I hope I am still welcome here on AOAND.

Comment by Andrew McDowell on November 3, 2013 at 9:59pm

Alright Rob, if we can't have a reasonable debate, answer and question then I'll stop.I said what I needed to say.I thought I was doing something good by sharing/preaching what and why I believe what I do.You all know, that's what I'm called to do as a Christian.I tried....to be delicate as I could without watering my faith down too much, and kind to both of you.But It's alright, at least you all allowed to spread the message.Remember don't kill the messenger....It's the message you refuse or accept.Peace, light, and love to all!

Comment by Rob Hale on November 3, 2013 at 7:03pm

Mr. McDowell,

We are all here to share and express our thoughts on life, spirituality, and our experiences.  It's not a good platform for your one-man religious crusade.  Vincente and you are not going to see eye to eye, just please agree to disagree, so we can drop this subject?  It is becoming obvious to me, and others I am sure, that you like to get a bit preachy.  THIS is NOT the place for that.  The Thread is called 'Carlos & Friends', but all I am getting is Mr. McD vs. Vincente.  What I am trying to say, is this is a conversation that should be carried out via Email or PM's, NOT in the open forum.  Please, can you just drop it, so we can get back to Business As Usual?

Vincente:

Have you ever heard the phrase, "Please don't feed the Trolls?"  LOL

Rob

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